we're standing up for america. i mean, you could build a heck of a story saying you're going to defie an imperial president with his -- spit while you say it, ultimate mate -- ultimatum. >> the republicans can say we came up with the compromise. we did the thing we didn't want to do offering tax increases, whether it's deduction closing or rate hikes, so the republicans have clearly moved, and i think that somehow they got to show that to the public and that it is spending that the democrats will not come back with. >> one other issues neither side talked about, the central issue in america, jobs, growth, stimulating a more abun adapt -- abundant economy. bottom line, both sides missed it. lou: missed it, and frankly, an introduction to a head wind of $260 billion taxes because of obamacare, and then the fiscal cliff. susan, thank you very much. we appreciate it, michael. thank you, doug. great to have you with us. now for your comments,